Activity vs. symptoms

Jen,

you are right on the money. It is in our parent’s best interest that we be healthy on all levels. It hurts them to see us ill, but also, unconsciously, they often feel like it is their fault and their responsibility to make us better. What i’m confused about is their attitude about the diet :?

I am 54 years old and 800 miles away from my mother and she is devestated to hear anything but improvement from me. And when i tell her i’m feeling better, she wants to know “how much!!!” Of course, she’s worried about me. But I know my mother, I know she has tremendous guilt about how she raised her kids. I’ll spare you those details, you’ll have to take my word on that one, i KNOW unconsciously that, even this, she worries is her fault and she would do anything to see me well before she dies (she’s 84 and not well - in fact, she may be hanging on, just to see me well one last time so she can die in peace)

Jen, you’re right, Selena has the wisdom of a very old soul :slight_smile:

Julie

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P.S. Brian, sounds like you’ve hit on some reasonable activities for yourself :slight_smile:

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Julie,

I was kind of forced to, my wife is blind and I am the only driver in our family.

Tranquility,

Regarding diets, I have had incidents where I can react to the wrong food in less than 15 minutes. The reason some people “think” that the diet is nonsense is that some foods take a day or two, an example for me is artificial sweetners. I can consume something once in a while with artificial sweetners, but after time, it builds up in my system and I find myself in a bad situation. BTW, overly processed meats/foods are what will put me on the floor before I am done eating. I have also found that if I have triggered myself with food, I can usually restore most of my balance back in less than an hour by drinking A LOT of water.

My mother, a nurse by the way, still doesn’t believe I won’t do things or eat things because they are triggers for me. She is always asking my wife, “now when did he stop eating/drinking/doing xyz?” and the answer is always the same. We keep explaining to her that I can’t do or eat certian things and then a short time later she is serving a meal that I can barely touch or trying to get me to go somewhere during peak business hours, or something else I can’t do.

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I was kind of forced to, my wife is blind and I am the only driver in our family.

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Brian, I’m sorry - you guys really did get the hard test. :frowning:

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My mother, a nurse by the way, still doesn’t believe I won’t do things or eat things because they are triggers for me. She is always asking my wife, “now when did he stop eating/drinking/doing xyz?” and the answer is always the same. We keep explaining to her that I can’t do or eat certian things and then a short time later she is serving a meal that I can barely touch or trying to get me to go somewhere during peak business hours, or something else I can’t do.

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incredible! What is it with these mothers and food? When I was young i was always being scolded for not eating my meat. I’ve never enjoyed meat and would take a few bites and about gagged on it. I sure was glad when the bad press came out about red meat and pork. Even now i’ll only eat a little chicken or fish on the weekends. Glad my mom is 800 miles away or she would still be nagging me (at risk of a not so early death - only kidding :twisted: )

Tranquility, i guess you’re not alone, except for the intervention part.

Julie

Hi Julie,
It’s because most people still don’t believe in diet having much to do with anything but weight and nutrition.
When I was on the gluten free diet, family and friends just stopped inviting us to dinner,
They were too frightened, and too lazy to learn about it.
I had all the dinner party’s at my house until I got too sick to do so,
People don’t want to change.
People are lazy and prefer to stick with what they know
They’ll go to their Dr’s for a script of antibiotics, for the common cold
And wonder why we have a super bug waiting to eat our skin off.
Because they prefer to believe in modern meds as a quick fix, instead of chicken soup and bedrest.

Peoples attitude stink when it comes to changing their diets.
Mine dose as well.
I haven’t tried the migraine diet.
I avoid, caffeine, msg, sweeteners, red wine,
I do eat cheese.

jen :smiley:

Jen,

the diet really does make a difference. When I first went on it, it didn’t make me well, but i was in horrid condition at that time. But when i start adding things back, if they don’t agree, i really feel it, usually the next day. Sometimes i’ll feel bad the next day and wonder why and then remember that I had eaten that bread which had some nuts in it.

So i’m making a list. Cheese - forget it! And I love cheese. We grilled hamburgers this weekend. As i said, i don’t like meat, the only thing I like about hamburgers is the fixin’s, especially ketchup, tomatoes, mayo, pickles. So there my husband is loading up on all this stuff and I’m having to eat this little piece of dry meat on a bun - no mayo, no mustard, no ketchup, no pickles, no tomatoes. But, i did grill up some zucchini, scallions and red peppers and threw those on top and it was pretty good (except for the beef part :slight_smile: ) I would rather have had a grilled veggie sandwich but i do like to get some animal protein on the weekends.

Try the diet, Jen, you might be surprised! okay, now I’ll quit mothering - Last thing YOU need, right? :!:

Jul

Ok all -

Here’s my 2 cents on the diet:

When I started the migraine diet, I was also at my worst. Within 2 weeks of starting it, I felt some improvement. Not enough to feel well, by far, but I could definitely tell there was a difference. It wasn’t until I started “tweaking” it, and discovered it was MSG that was my problem.(Go figure. Of all the things, it had to be MSG. The HARDEST thing to avoid, because its in everything). It took a LONG time, and a LOT of hard work to learn a different way of eating, but it was, and still is the best thing I’ve done so far.)

(By the way, my “Step-Mom” thinks I’m insane. She asks me everytime she sees me, why I won’t eat “this or that” and I just patiently tell her again. I bring my own food now, when I come for a get-together, and yes, she stares me down like I’m from another planet. I don’t care. I’m feeling better and thats all that counts. 8)

Kim

Oh just one thing guys I wasnt saying that I didnt beleive the diet didnt work,
there is way to much evidence that it does.
I try to aviod what triggers I know I have.
but just havent delved into it as deeply as others have here :mrgreen:
jen

I know Jen, i’m just naggin’ at ya :slight_smile:

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Oh just one thing guys I wasnt saying that I didnt beleive the diet didnt work,
there is way to much evidence that it does.
I try to aviod what triggers I know I have.
but just havent delved into it as deeply as others have here :mrgreen:
jen

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I have to ditto that. :wink:

I did originally eliminate most of the foods on the migraine diet, but not all. It just to be to much cooking for a family with two little boys, one thing for them and another for me, and another for my wife. I eliminated as many things as I could without adding A LOT of work in the kitchen, and then slowly added things back in.

yes, i don’t have nearly as many menus to worry about, just me and my husband. at first i was cook two separate meals, one for him and one for me. Now i’ve been able to make my migraine meals appetizing enough that they are good enough for both of us - i just have some add-ins for him - some sun-dried tomatoes, cheese, and other toppings and such.

what a lot of work it must be to try to get kids to eat a migraine diet. But one thing is for sure - getting MSG out of the house has got to be good for everybody!

Julie

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what a lot of work it must be to try to get kids to eat a migraine diet. But one thing is for sure - getting MSG out of the house has got to be good for everybody!

Julie

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I started out with a diagnoses of meniere’s and was on a low salt diet. That is actually how I found my food triggers. Anyway, we all got so used to a low salt diet that nobobody in our household can stand salty foods anymore. :mrgreen:

isn’t that something ! Here too. I add salt to NOTHING. and so many recipes call for it. If i make the mistake, thinking, surely this recipe must need it, it’s always a mistake. we just can’t stand it!

same thing for sweets, we eat no sweets, just fruits. Anything sweeter than a good pear, or blueberries tastes icky. i’m sure your little boy still has you bring sweets into the house :slight_smile:

Julie :slight_smile:

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same thing for sweets, we eat no sweets, just fruits. Anything sweeter than a good pear, or blueberries tastes icky. i’m sure your little boy still has you bring sweets into the house :slight_smile:

Julie :slight_smile:

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Holloween and family ruined that for us here. :roll:

Heh, I did a few calculations regarding salt.
The “salt” we use isn’t regular sodium chloride (aka table salt). It is, by weight, 50% sodium chloride, 40% potassium chloride, and 10% magnesium sulfate.
After some wannabe-chemist calculations, I came to the conclusion that only 19.675% of the “salt” is actually sodium, which of course is what we need(?) to avoid.
So, to add 500mg sodium a day to my food, I would have to add 2.54 grams of “salt”. I used a tiny digital scale to measure that up, and it’s at LEAST twice of what I’d add a day. Probably four times as much.
In other words, the difference of not adding salt, and adding enough to ruin the taste, is probably 100-250mg sodium a day. :slight_smile:

That should be small enough to not really matter, no?

Here’s what my boxes of table salt say: One is Morton Iodized. The Nutrition Facts on the side of the box say that 1.5 gm contain 580 mg of sodium. The other is sea salt: 1.5 gm contains 580 mg sodium. Both of these values are listed as being 25% of suggested daily intake based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

so if 100-200 mg of sodium a day to you makes a big difference i’d say, go for it. Truth is, i’m not against salt, i’m just finding that, because my husband needs to be off of it because of his blood pressure, i’m finding that i just don’t really like it anymore.

I used to think i couldn’t go without chocolate, or other things. I had to quit eating chocolate and haven’t missed it one bit. In fact, even the thought of it just sounds too sweet to me. funny.

Julie