Food Allergy Diet - AKA: making life more miserable

Hello

I was researching migraine on the web and found that some Doctors have the theory that food allergies cause migraines. See link: drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=183. I have just noticed that I always feel worse after eating eggs, which made me wonder if I am allergic to dairy products.

This Dr suggests doing food elimination to treat migraines and more specifically doing a ‘stone age’ diet. Link: drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=412. I can’t do this diet, I would die of misery!! :wink: Life is hard enough as it is! I don’t mind cutting out one or two things but I can’t cut out everything all at once!

My question is, has anyone done a food elimination diet to try and identify food allergies (such as wheat or dairy) that are above and beyond the Bucholz diet? Does anyone know how to do food elimination diets with minimum misery? I would welcome any ideas!

Becky

Maybe you could try to just eliminate a single food (i.e., citrus fruits) for a couple weeks & see what happens. Then re-introduce one single citrus. If it doesn’t bother you after one serving, try some the next day. Seems like some of us can get away with eating ‘trigger’ foods once in a while, but if we push our luck (eat them 2-3 days in a row) we have trouble.

(There’s a little boy in my Sunday School class who has a zillion food allergies - eggs, dairy & nuts are among the top ones. I can’t believe how many products contain one or all of those three.)

I’d also be willing to bet that certain combinations of foods can affect us, as well. In my humble (pessimistic) opinion, there are just too many combinations of foods to really find all of my triggers. I know some for certain - MSG, caffeine, processed meats & artificial sweeteners - really mess me up. Trying to eliminate MSG from my diet has caused the most trouble because it’s apparently not always easily identified.

For me it’s almost easier to list what I can eat: eggs, bread, potatoes, home-cooked chicken & milk. Obviously there are other foods that don’t bother me, but these are the ones I can usually count on to be ‘safe’. And it helps to like cooking - which I don’t. Julie has shown us there are all kinds of wonderful dishes we can make.

I did the elimination diet years ago, for 3 months or so, my headaches were less on it, but it was really difficult and I never got rid of them completely, it seemed that every time I added anything at all, I got a bad head.

Over the years I kept diaries and listed the foods I ate every day, this was an easier way of identifying a lot of foods. I could look back and see if there was a pattern. I had a blood test done to test loads of foods and only eggs and yeast showed up. I suspected eggs anyway as I love them and had eaten them every day. Sometimes it is just the quantity or eating them with another trigger that sets off a bad migraine so its not easy to identify.

Best Wishes
Christine

Becky,

I think it makes just as much sense as the migraine diet, and once i’m done adding foods back via that, i’ll try the food allergy diet because i am big with allergies.

I do wonder about those foods too, because right now i’m eating them, but i just can’t remove anything else until i start adding more things back.

Big success - i’m doing well with tomatoes!!!

Thanks for those links!

Julie

Becky,

the good news, is that you’ve found a trigger. Stay away from eggs. Now do the same with milk and see what happens.

I did the diet strictly for months. Now i can add back confidently, knowing everything is out of my system. If it makes me sick, it’s on the off list. If I’m fine, I’m okay with it.

eventually I’ll have a diet which works for me, it’s been well worth it, now that i’m adding back, i’m extremely happy.

julie

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Hello

I was researching migraine on the web and found that some Doctors have the theory that food allergies cause migraines. See link: drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=183. I have just noticed that I always feel worse after eating eggs, which made me wonder if I am allergic to dairy products.

This Dr suggests doing food elimination to treat migraines and more specifically doing a ‘stone age’ diet. Link: drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=412. I can’t do this diet, I would die of misery!! :wink: Life is hard enough as it is! I don’t mind cutting out one or two things but I can’t cut out everything all at once!

My question is, has anyone done a food elimination diet to try and identify food allergies (such as wheat or dairy) that are above and beyond the Bucholz diet? Does anyone know how to do food elimination diets with minimum misery? I would welcome any ideas!

Becky

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Becky,

Thanks for the links. This helps confirm my self-discovered treatment for my MAV has validity. The one thing that has helped me with my symptoms more than anything else is following a low-carb diet. I know it doesn’t sound like fun for a carboholic (which I am), but the difference it makes in my symptoms is worth it. If you ever get desperate enough, give it a try for a week or two and see if it makes a difference. I’m sure like every other treatment for migraine, this won’t work for everyone, but I know it works for at least one person - me! It has not been a cure-all, but it has given me some almost normal days.

Good luck on your journey!

Marci

Hi Marci-

Thats good news you are having some success!!!
How did you come across the no-carbs thing? Can you be a little more specific? Are you eating any carbs at all?
Just avoiding certain ones?

Kim

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Hi Marci-

Thats good news you are having some success!!!
How did you come across the no-carbs thing? Can you be a little more specific? Are you eating any carbs at all?
Just avoiding certain ones?

Kim

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Hi Kim,

Last spring I felt like I had be eating too many carbs - I felt bloated and lethargic. I decided to have a low-carb day and I felt a little better, so I stuck with it a few more days. I started having some relief of my symptoms, so I tried to stay low-carb most days. Then I had to go to New York for work and found it difficult to watch what I was eating both from a low-carb and migraine diet perspective. Shortly after I returned, I started my trial of Topamax. You’re not supposed to eat low-carb with Topamax, so I went off the diet completely. I just about hit rock bottom on the Topamax, so I quit it and the other meds I was on and went back to the diet. This time I decided to take it more seriously. I started doing Atkins in order to give myself guidelines to follow. Following the Atkin’s diet has worked better than anything else I have tried. When I’ve “cheated” my MAV symptoms have worsened. Here is my theory on why it helps:

  1. The diet has a natural diuretic effect. I had some relief with diuretics in the past. The problem is the drugs came with side effects.
  2. The diet eliminates the rollercoaster ride of sugar highs and lows. My MAV symptoms amplify when my blood sugar drops.
  3. The diet eliminates many of the same things as the migraine diet and focuses on natural foods, mostly vegetables, protein, and natural fats.

I eat a lot of non-starchy vegetables along with meat, butter, eggs, cheese (not a migraine trigger for me), cream cheese, flax meal, etc. I don’t eat sugar, grains, potatoes, fruits, highly processed foods, etc. Once I am able to stabilize at a level of recovery I am satisfied with, I plan to gradually add back in some of the higher quality carbs and see how I do.

I haven’t been able to achieve 100% relief with the diet, so I am still experimenting with it and supplements. However, I am living at an average of 85% of normal with some 95-98% days and a few 70-75% days here and there when the weather and hormones are out of whack. For comparison, I was living at 30-50% for the first few months of my sickness last winter and when I was taking Topamax this past spring/summer. My neurologist is very happy with my willingness to change my lifestyle in an effort to get better. He has a list of meds for me to try if I get to a point where I think I need to add something, but he is very supportive of my current approach.

Well, there’s a long answer for you. I’ve been meaning to post an update for everyone in case someone else is interested in trying the low-carb approach. I know others have had some relief going gluten-free, so I think there is really something to this for some people. Again, it’s not a cure-all and it isn’t for everyone, but its another weapon to add to the arsenal.

Take care,

Marci

Thanks everyone for your replies, its given me plenty of ‘food’ :wink: for thought. Perhaps I need to consider this more than I at first wanted to!

Marci - your comments about the no-carb diet is really interesting and seems to tie in quite well with the stone age age I found. Given that I have had little or no benefit from doing the Bucholz migraine diet, I am now considering doing the stone age diet instead for a month on its own to see if I get results (I couldn’t do both at the same time!). I am a definate wheat-oholic and rely on wheat for most of my food intake, so maybe there is something in that being an allergy for me.

Becky x

I eat an extremely low carb diet by choice, it’s the way i like to eat. When I crashed i was forced to eat an even lower carb diet because I had a hard time feeding myself. When I got my hands on the Buchholz diet I had to modify my diet even further and guess what? The ways in which I modified it eliminated even more carbs from my diet.

I’m about as low carb as you can get and it hasn’t helped my symptoms, so this must be an individual thing.

When I first started Googling for migraine diets I came up with quite a few hits for dairy, egg as well as low carb diets.

Somebody has even written a book about a low carb diet as a migraine cure. So it seems that the low carb thing is nothing new, and must be helpful to more than a handful of people. So good luck to those who it helps.

As I mentioned in my first post, once I’m through adding back all I wish to the Buchholz elimination diet, i’ll try eliminating eggs and then adding those back, and see what happens.

Thanks again, Becky!

Julie

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I’m about as low carb as you can get and it hasn’t helped my symptoms, so this must be an individual thing.

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Yes, I’m sure it is an individual thing. It appears just about everything is with migraine. I sure wish there was a magic fix that worked for all of us. :?

One note to clear up any potential confusion about low-carb. The low-carb I am talking about is even more low-carb than what I believe you have described in your diet, Julie. If I remember correctly, you eat a lot of vegetables and fruits and maybe some whole grains (among other things of course). While these are the “good” kind of carbs, they make for a higher carb diet than Atkins and other similar diets I’m talking about, which focus on meats and low-carb veggies (no root vegetables) and no fruit or grains until later phases of the diet. So far, I have found relief at very low carb levels (less than 20 carbs per day). This low level has a diuretic effect, which I believe plays a part in my improvement. I do plan to work my way up by “the carb ladder” (an Atkins term) by adding fruits and higher carb veggies to see how I do.

Ultimately, I would like to eat a diet similar to yours with maybe some additional protein (I remember you saying meat is not your favorite :wink: ). We’ll see…the journey continues.

So Atkins does not subtract the fiber count from the total carb count when calculating carbs?

Why do you think a diuretic effect has improved you? If so, why not take a pulse diuretic?

One more question, why do you suppose this diet has a diuretic effect?

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So Atkins does not subtract the fiber count from the total carb count when calculating carbs?

Why do you think a diuretic effect has improved you? If so, why not take a pulse diuretic?

One more question, why do you suppose this diet has a diuretic effect?

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Atkins does subtract the fiber count from the total carb count to determine net carbs. The first phase of Atkins is limited to 20 net carbs and no fruit or grains. It is only at that low of a level that the diuretic effect is present. As I understand it, carbohydrates cause the body to retain more water. If I go from a higher carb level to 20 net carbs, I lose 2-3 lbs in water weight within 1-2 days. If I eat anything higher carb, I gain that weight back overnight. This is common among Atkin’s dieters.

I took diuretics back in the beginning of all this when my GP thought I had Meniere’s. I don’t like the side effects. When I take it in the morning, it causes more dizziness and fatigue. If I take it at night, I’m running to the bathroom all night and end up with symptoms of sleep deprivation. Maybe I should talk to my doctor about trying a different diuretic. I’m not sure why they help; my theory is with lower fluid volume, there is less pressure on the blood vessels in my head. Again, that is just a theory.

I’ve never heard the term “pulse diuretic.” Is that just another term for diuretic, or is it a specific type? Educate me, please!

Marci,

Some heath care providers call the first category of diuretics (there are three, with Lasix being in the second), pulse. they are hydrochlorothiazide and metolazone (Zaroxolyn). If you were taking Lasix, I’m not surprised you didn’t like it. If you were taking one of these other two, then that’s as gentle as you can get drug-wise. You can’t take either one of them if you have a sulfa allergy.

I worry a little about the bad press the Atkin’s diet has received regarding liver and kidney damage. the reason you had to stay away from protein while on Topamax is protein is hard on the kidneys. The Atkins diet has been accused of being hard on the liver. Maybe there’s been a modification to the diet since all the bad press. But it might not be a bad idea for your doctor to keep a close eye on your kidney functions: BUN, creatinine and GFR (glomerular filtration rate) as well as your liver functions: Bilirubin, alkaline phosphatase, AST and ALT. I would have him do a baseline which would be now, and then again in six months, or at least a year, for comparison.

The meds we take are also hard are our systems, so whatever works, go for it, just keep an eye on your labs, as if you were taking a med.

I’ve listed below just one web page i found on foods which are natural diuretics. i don’t know if they would fit in with your diet. I found a ton of other sites, this was just the first one listed.

Foods like salt and sugar cause the body to retain considerable fluids. They may lead to bloating and water retention. Often inadequate protein in the diet can lead to fluid retention. When the body does not get enough amino acids or B-vitamins, it may accumulate excess fluids.

Diuretics are prescribed for people suffering from edema - accumulation of fluids in the body tissues. People suffering from high blood pressure or heart diseases may be prescribed diuretics. Women suffering from PMS symptoms such as bloating are often advised to take diuretics to rid the body of excess fluid retention. Often diuretics are taken in a bid to lose weight. If taken indiscriminately, diuretics can lead to serious consequences such as dehydration and potassium deficiency.

Natural diuretic

More and more people are resorting to natural foods and herbs that exhibit diuretic properties instead of diuretic pills. Moderation is the watchword even in the case of natural diuretics. Natural diuretics can aid in removal of excess fluids from the body and aid in treating of sciatica, kidney stone, lymphatic swelling, PMS, gonorrhea, liver disorders and high blood pressure.

Green tea is a natural diuretic food that has been in use for centuries in China.

Consumption of cranberry juice can aid in removal of excess fluid retention.

Apple cider vinegar exhibits natural diuretic properties and in addition maintains the potassium levels. It can be added to the salad dressing.

Dandelion is often used as a natural diuretic.

Nettle has natural diuretic properties that facilitate good cleansing.

Dandelion leaf tea aids in detoxification and has a beneficial effect on those suffering from cystitis and urinary tract infections.

Fennel has carminative and diuretic properties and is frequently used in seasoning food.

Diuretic food

Natural foods with high water content such as watermelons and cucumbers help increase urination and better flushing out of toxins. Cucumbers are rich in sulfur and silicon that stimulate the kidneys into better removal of uric acid. Watercress and artichokes are also natural diuretic foods.

Asparagus contains asparigine - a chemical alkaloid that boosts kidney performance, thereby improving waste removal from the body.

Brussel Spouts help in stimulating the kidneys and pancreas. This helps in better cleansing of cells.

Beets are natural diuretic foods that attack floating body fats and fatty deposits.

Oats contain silica - a natural diuretic.

Cabbage is known to aid breakage of fatty deposits, especially around the abdominal region.

Carrots are a rich source of carotene that speeds the metabolic rate of the body and hastens removal of fat deposits and waste.

Lettuce aids better metabolism and flushing of toxins.

Tomatoes are rich in Vitamin C that aid the metabolism and release of water from the kidney to flush out waste.

Other than the other excellent properties that Garlic possesses, it is a natural diuretic food that aids breakage of fat. Horseradish, raw onions and radish speed up your metabolism.

Julie

Wow! Thanks for the information, Julie.

Atkins has responded to the bad press by switching the focus from proteins and fats, to an emphasis on eating plenty of low-carb vegetables in addition to the proteins and fats. They now recommend 12-15 of the 20 net carbs come from veggies during induction. I’ve been considering a switch to the South Beach diet, which I think is very similar to the way you eat. It is different from Atkins in that it recommends avoiding “bad” carbs AND “bad” fats, whereas Atkins allows for any type of fat. I’m afraid I’ll lose whatever benefit Atkins has provided me, but I would feel better about eating from the South Beach plan long-term. I think I may make the switch and try including some of the foods with a natural diuretic effect listed on your post.

I was taking hydrochlorothiazide by the way. I won’t rule out trying it again. I’m just on a let’s fight this naturally kick right now. I hate feeling drugged! The Topamax really did a number on me and has me afraid to try new medications. I think I’m going to give the diet and supplements at least one more month. That will make it three months medication free.

After I posted to you i thought of the South Beach diet. I don’t know all the ins and outs of it, because it’s not for me, but my sister is on it and she claims that is works by getting your endocrine system in order. she feels better on it than ever in her life. She’s been more active since being on this diet, and she’s going through perimenopause with no symptoms. It’s great for anybody who thinks they are leaning towards diabetes, thyroid disorder, anything hormonal. It emphasizes the glycemic index rather than counting carbs which I agree with. (I studied biochemistry in college and did a summertime internship in food science - doesn’t make me an expert! that was a LONG time ago!) Scott has his Ph.D. in food science and i believe he is working on the glycemic index, so he’s the expert.

Oh, and my sister said it was the easiest diet she’s ever been on. Piece of cake. But she loves meat. It would be real hard for me.

Buy the book, see what you think. I have no idea if it dehydrates you. I myself would worry about dehydration, i feel dehydrated to begin with. I’m always being told to drink more water.

I could never live on diet that focused on meat, unless it was actually a cure for MAV - then i would suffer through it. For now, i’ll stick with my meds, as they are working for me. But keep us posted on what you decide to do and what progress you make, okay? I have several more med options, but if they don’t work out, i’ll give the diet a try.

Julie