# Help me please. MAV or not ? **URL:** \ **Category:** New here, let me introduce myself 🤝\ **Created:** [May 28, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://mvertigo.org/t/help-me-please-mav-or-not/19400 "2020-05-28T16:03:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4
**Author:** ![turnitaround](https://mvertigo.org/user_avatar/mvertigo.org/turnitaround/32/4441_2.png) [@turnitaround](https://mvertigo.org/u/turnitaround)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://mvertigo.org/t/help-me-please-mav-or-not/19400/4 "2020-05-29T05:19:51Z")
Very interesting. PLF causes a Secondary Hydrops, which is what I’m sure (and my latest doctor is sure) I suffer from. This is what causes the ‘MAV’ symptoms at least in my case. I wonder if recreational drugs can also cause onset of inner ear fluid imbalance? Oh oh !! > **[‘Ecstasy’ Enhances Noise-Induced Hearing Loss](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3748725/)** > > ‘Ecstasy’ or 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methamphetamine (MDMA) is an amphetamine abused for its euphoric, empathogenic, hallucinatory, and stimulant effects. It is also used to treat certain psychiatric disorders. Common settings for Ecstasy use are ... “An added concern is that MDMA consumption may enhance the NIHL among clubbers, rave-goers, and psychiatric patients. For example, MDMA can deplete the brain neurotransmitters serotonin and dopamine ([Perrine et al., 2010] Both of these neurotransmitters are believed to play a protective role against acoustic trauma ([Lendvai et al., 2011]” > **[A case of sensorineural deafness following ingestion of Ecstasy | The Journal...](https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-laryngology-and-otology/article/abs/case-of-sensorineural-deafness-following-ingestion-of-ecstasy/EC0CE7A49A97B6A83F5841DBD2BA5379)** > > A case of sensorineural deafness following ingestion of Ecstasy - Volume 115 Issue 11 So it seems MDMA may have an unhelpful influence on the inner ear. The thing is this could manifest as a vestibular problem as well as a hearing problem I suspect, because the anatomy is so intimately linked. It’s also very interesting Ecstasy users and [MAVers both complain of ‘Brain Zaps’](https://mvertigo.org/search?q=brain%20zaps). Perhaps there’s a etiological link and common cause at some level. > **[Why You Get 'Brain Zaps' After Taking MDMA, and How You Can Stop Them](https://www.vice.com/en/article/brain-zaps-sleep-paralysis-mdma-ecstasy/)** > > Ever got back from a festival and felt like someone was firing little jolts of electricity into your brain stem? They're called "brain zaps" and they're fucking horrible. Going even further: > **[Stress Could Lead to Hearing Loss | Hearing Centers](https://myhearingcenters.com/blog/stress-could-lead-to-hearing-loss/)** > > If No one wants to live with stress. We know it causes a host of other problems, from keeping us up at night and losing sleep, to interfering with performance at work, and damaging family relationships. See: > [@Were you stressed / burnt out when MAV hit?](https://mvertigo.org/t/were-you-stressed-burnt-out-when-mav-hit/18373): > > [poll](https://mvertigo.org/t/were-you-stressed-burnt-out-when-mav-hit/18373/1) This is a very interesting line of inquiry … Perhaps unhealthy levels of neurotransmitters can affect inner ear fluid balance? This might account for relief of symptoms in users taking antidepressants … Further if you add potential impact to neurotransmitters from migraine you can see this whole thing is potentially circular. --- _[View the full topic](https://mvertigo.org/t/help-me-please-mav-or-not/19400)._