Hit 40 and got hormonal anxiety and depression

Sounds just like me! A ā€˜complicatedā€™ case I was told. That was just before the consultants put on their running shoes and made for the door!

Quite literally, just for the record, on the Nortriptyline Success Stakes, and appreciating it was a long time ago you started taking it, do you recall. Was the Nori the first/only preventive you tried, did you get much by way of side effects at the beginning, and can you remember roughly how long it was before you improved. Think thatā€™s about the usual list of questions asked. Sorry. Not meaning to interrogate but your answers might reassure others about to embark on a similar course of action. Helen

Here in California, USA, two gynecologists Iā€™ve seen recommend using Estradiol vaginal creme instead of oral hrt. I am 61 so have been postmenopausal about 10 years.
I donā€™t know if the fact that itā€™s not oral will make a difference in how it affects symptoms, but Iā€™d ask your doctors what they think about going that route.

I wouldnā€™t have thought the cream v. Oral would make a difference. Voltarol gives me chronic GERD. Pills or gel makes no difference. Perhaps with hormonal gel itā€™s less potent than the pill formulation. Here in UK all recommendations are that HRT treatment stops totally five years post menopause.

From all Iā€™ve read HRT may help some MAVers. Patches are used more successfully and timings are important. Guess an ā€˜expertā€™ expert in the appropriate field would be required to give optimum chance of success. Everythingā€™s worth looking into though there doesnā€™t seem much support for HRT for any long term condition in the UK.

Have you got a new referral or an appointment to see Dr. S? I would ask him about it. He told me the bulk of new patients he sees each week are peri menopausal and menopausal women and he warned me that menopausal symptoms could " throw a bomb" every now and again into my recovery added to the fact that the peri menopause can go on for a decade or more and even after hormones can still fluctuate (Iā€™m mid fifties and still not through). So Mav is harder to treat in my age group. He also said if specific hormonal symptoms got problematic he had drugs he could add in or change me too that should help. Nothing special or revolutionary (the standard preventatives)but he seemed to know what drugs might work best for the symptoms that would be most bothersome.

I 've read that Effexor/Venlafaxine is good for hot flushes as well as anxiety and MAV
https://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/effexor-vs-hrt-for-hot-flashes

The Mirena coil in combination with estrogen patches was suggested to me when I had chronic migraine in my late mid forties .Although not recommended if you have high blood pressure.

It was a slow process. I built the nortryptaline up gradually. I was well enough to work after two years. I was really unwell though and did go up very slowly to 75mgs then 85mgs after the birth of my second child. Iā€™m living proof that you can be well!! And for a long period of time too. Iā€™m suffering with my hormonal change due to my age xxx

2 Likes

It was the first one I tried but Iā€™ve tried loads to put in to assist with the taper but all the side effects are too much!

Thank you will update you once Iā€™ve had the appointment

This condition takes so much from us! Trying to remember that when we are well it is only then we see how much it has given us xxx

I am still seeing Dr S. heā€™s a legend xxxx he wants me to try hrt as I tried venlafaxine and it did work for my mood and anxiety but made me feel asthmatic x

Yes, youā€™d have to find someone who knows what theyā€™re doing. As we all know, thatā€™s very hard to find sometimes.
I think the reasoning is that the hormones arenā€™t circulating through your entire system when using vaginal creme. I agree itā€™s not a long-term treatment for most people. I just started taking it this year because of changes in the tissue. Iā€™ll leave it at that and maybe spare you a mental picture :slight_smile:

1 Like

Have you found a menopause specialist? If not, this tool might be useful: ļ»æļ»æļ»æFind a BMS-recognised Menopause Specialist - British Menopause Society

Thank you for this x

You really do have a long MAV history. Would be interested to know what you did next. Tried the HRT maybe.