Check this out! Probably B.S. but I can find out

Hi all,

Has anyone ever heard of Misaligned eyes? I haven’t till I watched this clip on youtube last night. I youtubed Migraine associated vertigo and found this. Take a look below. The Dr. here is actually right down the street from me. About a 20 minute drive. What do you all think? Should I go there and see what all the fuss is about? Apparently if I try these prism type glasses on, I’ll be able to tell instantly if they’ll take my dizziness away.

Since the guru dr. behind this is so close to me, I’m considering taking a drive and see for myself. Definately not expecting a thing here, but I could be wrong. This is just way to good to be true. There is no way. But I’m willing to go there and give it a try because it’s so close and I got insurance-so it shouldn’t cost me much. What do you think?


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I just called their office this morning to get some info. The receptionist sounded very busy and kind of quick but not rude. I asked her about dizzy migrainey patients and if they get relief. She said she has seen people fly in from England to see her for relief. She has seen hundreds of people with the dizziness that have found relief. Although she also told me that it’s not for everyone and some people haven’t got any relief from it, but more so than not people find benefit with this.

I did have to tell her that, I went to U of M hospital nearby and they never once mentioned this type of treatment or anything. Why wouldn’t they at least mention you guys. And I just don’t want to go chasing after a miracle as many people I know of have and wasted a lot of money doing so. But I’m not far from you and I want to get in there and see what this is all about. But I just want to make sure this isn’t some type of scam or something.

Now given the area where there practice is, I know the area well and you have to be making some dollars to keep up shop in this area. It’s an expensive area to stay in and they have been around a while so that makes me feel a little better about trying it out. If they were in a shitty area, I wouldn’t even bother at all to be honest.

The only thing I’m concerned about this is that I get the same feeling when I hear about a chiropractor claiming to cure vertigo. We all know that it is most of the time bogus and I kind of have that feeling with this. But who knows. Good thing they’re not far from me.

If I go there and get 0 relief, I might blow up at them and scare the daylights out of them and get arrested so they put that on the local news and debunk their original news claim of vertigo cure. That’ll teach them for false hoping people like me. :lol:


I say why not, what do you have to lose? It would be one more thing to cross off the list. I’ve wondered if my eyes contribute at all because I have astigmatism and don’t wear glasses or contacts and my eyes will twitch if on computer for too long from straining. So I’m very interested to hear what your experience is.

Just wondering if the nasal spray and decongestants are still helping as well??


I suppose the nasal spray and decongestant is helping, but not really significantly. My right nostril is definatly more clear now than before. Maybe after a few more days it’ll be better. But I don’t know really.


Here’s some more info on this stuff I found:

ANN ARBOR, Mich., June 4 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ – A recent retrospective study by four Michigan physicians shows strong evidence that symptoms of headache, dizziness and anxiety in some patients with traumatic brain injury potentially could be alleviated or even eliminated with specialized eyeglass lenses containing prisms.

The paper was published in the April 2010 issue of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation. The investigators included doctors from three southeast Michigan hospitals and one in private practice, and involved 43 patients with TBI.

“This represents a new approach to the treatment of post-concussive symptoms,” says Mark S. Rosner, M.D., adjunct clinical instructor in the Department of Emergency Medicine at the University of Michigan Medical School and Emergency Department staff physician at St. Joseph Mercy Hospital in Ann Arbor. “Vision was known to be affected by TBI, but now it appears that the vision abnormalities caused by the TBI are causing the other post-concussive symptoms.”

The study suggests that TBI appears to be causing visual image misalignment – or vertical heterophoria. To correct this misalignment and prevent double vision, the eye muscles are utilized to force the eyes back into proper alignment. This causes the eye muscles to become overworked, strained and fatigued, which accounts for many post-concussive symptoms, including headaches, dizziness, anxiety and neck pain. The use of prismatic eyeglass lenses to realign the images and reduce or eliminate eye muscle overwork led to a 71.8 percent reduction of patient’s symptoms.

TBI affects 15 to 20 percent of our servicemen and women returning from Iraq and Afghanistan – caused mostly by explosions – and approximately 2 million people per year in the U.S. – caused mostly by falls, auto accidents and sports injuries. Approximately 10 to 25 percent of patients with TBI still have significant post-concussive symptoms one year after their injury.

“Treatment involves a multifaceted approach, including physical therapy, occupational therapy and multiple medications, and can take years to complete,” says Jennifer E. Doble, M.D., a physiatrist at St. Joseph Mercy Hospital, Ann Arbor. “Prismatic lens treatment seems to allow the other therapies to be effective more quickly. And as a result, patients get better quicker, reducing the time and cost of caring for this patient population.”

The first patient with TBI was recognized as having vertical heterophoria in 2005 by two of the study co-authors – Doble, a TBI rehabilitation specialist – and Debby L. Feinberg, O.D., an optometrist at Vision Specialists of Birmingham, Birmingham, Mich. The overlap of TBI and vertical heterophoria symptoms was significant: headaches, neck ache, upper back pain, dizziness, nausea, anxiety and reading difficulties. To date, no single unifying cause of TBI symptoms had been identified.

Doble initially saw patients with TBI. When vertical heterophoria was suspected, they were then referred to Feinberg for further evaluation.

“A retrospective analysis of the data from these patients was performed, and 43 patients were diagnosed with vertical heterophoria and included in the study,” says Feinberg. “These patients had persistent post-concussive symptoms despite receiving standard treatments and medications for an average of 3.5 years.”

A diagnostic and therapeutic process developed by Feinberg was used to identify and treat vertical heterophoria. Prism lenses were added to the patient’s baseline prescription, which resulted in a 71.8 percent reduction of symptoms in an average of 3.5 months.

“Our study concluded that in this group of patients who developed post-concussive symptoms and vertical heterophoria symptoms because of their TBI, malfunctioning of the binocular visual system was found to be a single common factor shared by all patients,” says Arthur J. Rosner, M.D., an otolaryngologist at the Department of Otolaryngology, William Beaumont Hospital, Troy, Mich.

“Treatment of the vertical heterophoria with prismatic eyeglass lenses was found to be effective in reducing symptoms associated with both TBI and vertical heterophoria.”

The physicians who contributed to this study were Mark Rosner, Doble, Feinberg and Arthur Rosner.

PM&R paper:

Funding source: self-funded.

Patents/conflicts: none

Journal reference: Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, 10.1016/j.pmrj.2010.01.011

The St. Joseph Mercy Health System, Ann Arbor, Mich., has also distributed this press release.

About Vertical Heterophoria

Vertical heterophoria is a binocular vision condition that causes symptoms (headaches, dizziness, anxiety, nausea, neck pain and reading difficulties) that are common to many other medical conditions.

It was first identified in the 1880s by ophthalmologist George T. Stevens, M.D. An optometrist, Raymond Roy, O.D, did further work on this condition in the 1950s and 1960s. However, the condition remains relatively unknown today because difficulties in measuring the amount of prism needed to correct the vertical misalignment hindered work in this field.

Feinberg and Arthur Rosner recognized this condition in 1995 in patients who were suffering from dizziness unrelated to TBI. Treatment of over 4000 vertical heterophoria patients and 750 patients with TBI and VH since then by Feinberg has led to the advances in the diagnosis and treatment that has propelled this research forward.

More information about VH is available at or by contacting Feinberg’s office at 248-258-9000.

The origins of this VH research

Arthur Rosner had symptoms of vertical heterophoria as a young man and was treated in 1985 by Feinberg. (She later became his sister-in-law.) As an ENT physician, Rosner saw patients with complaints of headaches, dizziness, anxiety, neck pain and difficulty with balance and coordination whose symptoms were not caused by inner ear/vestibular system abnormalities.

He began to notice a pattern that seemed to have a visual cause, so he started to refer these patients to their eye doctors. But they all returned to him, telling him that nothing wrong was found. In 1995 he began referring them to Feinberg, who was able to help them. Together, they began developing a questionnaire to aid in the diagnosis of this condition, and Feinberg refined her diagnostic and therapeutic techniques.

Doble became aware of vertical heterophoria in 2005 when one of her TBI patients improved significantly after being treated by Feinberg. After meeting with Feinberg to learn more about VH, she recognized that many of her patients had VH symptoms that could be treated with prismatic lenses.

Mark Rosner (who is the brother of Arthur Rosner and married to Feinberg) became involved in 2007. He is the principle investigator and lead writer for the study, and he has taken the lead in elucidating the visual optics and physiology/pathophysiology of vertical heterophoria, resulting in the discovery of a new ocular posture (vertical transphoria) and a new ocular movement (compensatory vertical divergence).

SOURCE University of Michigan Health System

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Greg, there have been posts on this before have you searched? I actually have been diagnosed with divergence excess and accommodative insufficiency and was prescribed vision therapy. My eye doctor tried prisms in my glasses but they kinda made things worse to be honest. Although it was my first ever pair of glasses and my eyes were bugging out anyway from adjusting to the new prescription. She did extra tests when I told her I was having dizziness and discovered the above with my eyes.

You should totally go to the office for an exam since you’re so close, what do you have to lose?


I didn’t really search the forum for this. But if this subject has already been brought to the table here, I didn’t know. Sounds like you’ve been there and done that. But you really think I should run in there to see huh. Didn’t work for you though right. I don’t wear glasses or contacts so I wonder how I’d react to these. If it’s going to noticeably change my vision, then my only guess is that it wouldn’t work for me either.


This is interesting because ever since my MAV started I’ve been having weird bouncy vision for example when watching tv the wording will move upwards, I’ve been to the hospital about my eyes and they said I had visual dyslexia but having misalined eyes could be the problem, it’s hard to explain my vision but if any of u have watch the film “incidious” at the beginning when they have the words going above the actual word is excatly what my vision is like with words on tv, I’d like to try the glasses lol anything is worth a try if it means getting rid of these horrible symptoms