Cold showers - fatigue, fever

Hello all,

Just wanted to get some opinions/ pick your brains. Since I got ill with VM in 2016 following a big emotional and hormonal trigger in the form of a miscarriage, I have been very temperature sensitive. No more saunas for me or indeed cold dips in the sea. After a big time relapse around March this year, I am feeling somewhat better and determined to get into some kind of cold shower regime to strengthen my mitochondria. I have tried and failed at this previously, as I experienced significant fatigue shortly afterwards. I also experienced quite extreme fatigue along with short lived feverishness (shivering, feeling freezing while my skin was hot) a couple of times recently after going outdoor swimming in fairly chilly water on a reasonably warm day.

Now I’ve started just with very short cold-ish blasts in the shower and hoping to build up, but am feeling fatigued again this morning after a quick and moderate rinse earlier. I seem to be able to do it for a couple of days and then, boom, terrible fatigue.

Would love to hear your thoughts/ ideas on what is going on here. Has anyone experienced anything like this themselves?

Thanks everyone!

I inserted ‘cold showers’ into the Search box and it would appear you are far from alone.

Then I found this. Scott, one of the original founders of this site - Allodynia.

Looking for input – things that “don’t add up”

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I should add that with fatigue etc come usual MAV flare symptoms too, but fatigue is most noticeable

Hmm, seems allodynia is associated with pain? I never get any pain, it’s more like the familiar surging feeling in my body that my nervous system has been over stressed (by a little coldish blast of water), it actually feels nice on my skin. Then afterwards, floored with fatigue.

Thanks for looking, I’ll have a more careful read of this. Certainly an ‘oddity‘!

Had I not pick up on that I’d have said it’s ‘just’ another indication of hypersensitivity which goes with the condition.

With regard to allodynia being associated with pain id say so is migraine but I had all the other symptoms for a decade before any pain. So could be a different manifestation. MAVers seem prone to those.

Still think the hypersensitivity theory holds up best though.

Yes, sensitive to absolutely everything it seems :unamused::unamused::unamused:

I’d say ‘Join the Club’ but you already did😃

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Thank god this club exists! Can’t imagine how isolated I would feel if it didn’t :grinning:

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More like family.

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Fatigue and Allodynia could be many things including Fibromyalgia. Temperature sensitivity could be many things as well, including thyroid issues. Best go to your GP and see what they think of it.

My mother has Fibromyalgia and fatigue. CoQ10 (3x 100mg per day) seems to help her a lot, might be worth trying.

I’m not sure a cold shower will “strengthen your mitocondria” , so I wouldn’t stress about that. I’ve dabbled with those as well and all they ever seem to do is give me an adreneline rush, which then of course feels good, but not sure its the best thing for MAV peeps.

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There is a lot of information out there about ‘eustressful’ activities such as cardio exercise and cold showers strengthening mitochondrial function (energy production, brain health…). I’m not a scientist or a doctor but it makes sense that you need to regularly take your body out of its comfort zone, in whatever small way, for it to function well (use it or lose it?)

But the thyroid link is plausible. I take levothyroxine for an under active thyroid/ possible hashimotos, so maybe worth speaking more to my doctor about that.

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Thanks for coq10 tip. I already take it, but much smaller dose, so may try upping it

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Hi

I used to get low fever at onset of VM where my temp would rise by about 1 degree Celsius

They used to call migraine “brain fever”

Not sure of the mechanic of it, but there does seem to be some correlation with low fever and migraine

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It’s so weird! Almost like an inflammatory reaction.

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I’m so glad you posted this! This is what I was looking for today – when symptoms flair and brain buzz/fog is added to the mix, I also run a fever 1-2 degrees above my average. Was here looking to see if this is part of VM or another problem.

I don’t get it now I’m mostly migraine free, but it was one of the most puzzling symptoms. Possibly to do with histamines…

One of my biggest triggers is actually hot showers. My theory is that my migraines specifically get triggered when my blood vessel are dilated. I have also wondered if that’s why I respond well to propananol. I can only take cold showers, and that seems to do well for me.

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