Dizziness worsened by bearing down?

Does anyone here with MAV or Mal De Embark syndrome have any issues of increased dizziness with Val Salva Maneuver?? In other words, while “bearing down” in the bathroom?? If I strain too much, I feel like the room is going “up and down” and it can do that for hours after I’m done. After a while, it goes away, but it take some time. Anyone else experience that??

Rich

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Does anyone here with MAV or Mal De Embark syndrome have any issues of increased dizziness with Val Salva Maneuver?? In other words, while “bearing down” in the bathroom?? If I strain too much, I feel like the room is going “up and down” and it can do that for hours after I’m done. After a while, it goes away, but it take some time. Anyone else experience that??

Rich

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Nothing like that at all, however, one item I’ve experienced constantly since onset in 2005 is that----relative to what I used to do in the weight room and at home for exercise---- push-ups, upright rows, cable rows, bench presses, or even changing the oil on a car instantly create pressure behind my ears and cause borderline disequilibrium/full blown vertigo. Naturally, I stopped doing all of the above, although I’ve been able to change the oil in the car for the last several months with a larger ratchet. Sit-ups gave me problems up to about 2006-early 2007, but now I do a lot. I could not run from onset until around late March 2007…and running is still an “iffy” thing sometimes.

The increase of resistance/pressure sets it off…especially with pushing and pulling movements involving the upper body.

Depends on the position for me. I cannot do most excersises that require a horizontal position. Push ups are probably the worse for me. It also depends on how I am feeling, if I am experiencing a dizzyspell, just about everything agrivates my symptoms.

For me though, it is second to minutes not hours.

Rich, Have you been checked for dysautonomia? That manuver of bearing down is one of the techniques they use to test for that. I had this done to me by a nuerologist here where I live and by an ear doctor in Birmingham alabama. Also if you have high blood pressure they tell you not to strain like bearing down. I have noticed when I have a migraine any thing like bearing down or lifting will affect my head. I was told my blood pressure doesn’t fluctuate exactly right during that manuver. I was not as symptomatic as some patients when doing the bearing down testing. Maybe you should check it out if you haven’t already.

Linda

Rich, Have you been checked for dysautonomia? That manuver of bearing down is one of the techniques they use to test for that. I had this done to me by a nuerologist here where I live and by an ear doctor in Birmingham alabama. Also if you have high blood pressure they tell you not to strain like bearing down. I have noticed when I have a migraine any thing like bearing down or lifting will affect my head. I was told my blood pressure doesn’t fluctuate exactly right during that manuver. I was not as symptomatic as some patients when doing the bearing down testing. Maybe you should check it out if you haven’t already.

Linda

Hi Linda. Been to a lot of doctors. Nobody ever thought to check me for it. Or they did and assumed I don’t have an issue. I get the sensation even from regular exerice so it’s not just the bearing down. I looked up the condition and it seems like the symptoms come on very suddenly, and sometimes for no apparent reason. I don’t have that. I only get it if I exercise, or strain a lot. Modest straining won’t cause it. Maybe I over exaggerated. But the exercise, and even sex, will do it to me. That doesn’t sound like disautonomia. If were sitting quietly watching TV, and then suddenly WHAM!!, that would be a different story. But I will bring this up to my neurologist. Thanks a lot! :slight_smile:

Rich

Hi Rich, I also suffer these symptoms, have you heard about Perilymph Fistula
here is some info.
emedicine.com/emerg/topic414.htm
jen

Wow, you guys are right on top of your stuff!! Thanks Jen, I was tested for this at Johns Hopkins. Negative. I have come to think that this is merely a result of increased intracranial pressure caused by the migraine. No doctors can offer anything else to the table on that :slight_smile: Thanks again Jen!

Rich