Well I think you need to check out Dr. Hauser’s YT channel. He says if you have neck stiffness/pain and u have dizziness/vertigo/nausea/headaches/head pressure/tinnitus… there is a good chance that u have cervical instability and it’s treatable. He uses prolotherapy to treat it. If u are located in Florida or u can just go to Florida, consider paying him a visit. It might be worth it. If you are not, u can start by getting a Digital Motion Xray done to see if it is what’s causing your symptoms. If DMX is not available in your area, u can get a dynamic xray or a dynamic mri done on ur cervical spine. They reportedly do a good work to diagnose CI if dmx is not available.
Dr. Hauser is a hack doctor who peddles in medical pseudoscience and often ruins the lives of the patients he “treats”. Go read the reviews for his clinic and see for yourself. “prolotherapy” is not a medically validated therapy and the ‘stem cell mixture’ he injects is self-prepared so there’s no drug manufacturer you can actually go back and check with to ensure it actually is what he says it is.
Save your money and go with medically validated treatments that have been well-studied. There is no evidence that “cervical instability” as Dr. Hauser describes it actually exists. Seriously, it is not worth having your life messed up by some guy in Florida who calls himself a doctor stabbing you in the neck and injecting you with a mystery substance to treat a disease there’s very little evidence actually exists.
I’m actually very skeptical of this account’s recommendation for that clinic considering that its only been active for about 20 hours and the first suggestion is to visit some shoddy pseudo-doctor’s clinic. If you’re trying to be helpful its appreciated but please do a little more research before you recommend checking out people who have a spotty track record at best.
Easy man! First off, I’m not promoting Dr. Hauser’s clinic. I watched his videos on yt when I was searching for the relation between neck injuries and balance disorders. His videos popped in the results. He interviewed a bunch of his patients. I don’t know if they are real, ok? But they said they did benefit from prolo. That’s why I recommended “WATCHING” his videos.
Anyways where are those reviews?
I did my research on prolotherapy. Here is what I got: it is you who needs to do more research cuz prolo is no pseudoscience. Where did u get that info? What’s ur reference?
its an “alternative” treatment, which means it has not been approved by the FDA due to insufficient evidence yet Dr. Hauser still charges his patients thousands to receive the therapy. if the therapy works so well (apparently for any medical condition, because Dr. Hauser treats them all!), you have to ask yourself why insurance isn’t lining up to cover it since a quick one-time several thousand dollar charge is significantly cheaper for an insurance company than someone with a chronic illness!
There’s a proverb that I often fall back on when it comes to conditions like this and the level of desperation that comes with them: “the sicker a man is the more medicines he will try”. Dr Hauser takes advantage of this. taking advantage of the sick is one of the most evil things I can imagine – I really have no hesitation in calling it despicable. sick people are easy to take advantage of, and Dr. Hauser is well aware of this.
There’s another saying that I like: “a lie travels around the world before the truth even has a chance to get its pants on.” So no, I am not going to research for you why prolotherapy is not considered to be an effective treatment, and likely quackery instead.
if you’re going to do any alternative therapy, acupuncture is probably best. at least that is relatively safe and its practitioners dont claim it can cure you of over dozens of diseases like Dr. Hauser claims of prolotherapy!
Goodness me! … How can a doctor, publicly carrying out a treatment that is not FDA approved and reportedly injuring patients retain his or her licence to practice?
I’ve looked up cervical instability many times since my symptoms started last year. I have joint hypermobility and my neck is particularly flexible. I’ve wondered many times if my issue is coming from my neck as obviously we have balance receptors in our neck and spine that tell our brains where we are in space. I’ve seen a physio who gave me neck strengthening exercises, chin tucks, that give you a double chin and are best not done in company
That said it seems Chiropractors are the ones banging the cervical instability drum, it seems in mainstream medicine a very contentious issue with many doctors dismissing it exists at all. I’m in the UK and Chiropractors are used far less here than in the US. I’ve also read of cases where patients have suffered permanent neck injury, even paralysis after they’ve seen a Chiro who was too enthusiastic with manipulating the neck. So I’ve stayed well clear.
Say what you will about Chiro’s, but the one I see has been the only doctor to alleviate my vertigo and nausea. I have been to the local ENT. They diagnosed me with BPPV. I have been to the Bill Wilkerson Center (Vanderbilt University Medical Center). They diagnosed me with Menier’s. They gave me several Intratympanic steroid injections that cost several thousands dollars each. These did nothing. They sent me down the hall to the migraine dept. They could not do anything for me. My wife saw a Facebook posting (laugh if you will) about a chiropractor mentioning vertigo. He specialized in adjusting the “atlas” bone (C1 vertebra). When the chiropractor adjusts the atlas bone, you feel very little pressure. I go see him once every 3-4 months when I get a little dizzy. Since I have been seeing him, I have had actual vertigo once. I have been seeing him for over two years now.
I have no issue with Chiros, as I said they arent widely used here in the UK, they arent available on our NHS and even if you’re lucky enough to have private medical insurance you are unlikely to be covered for alternative treatments. Mainstream medicine certainly doesnt have the answers for vertigo either except take tablets, so I certainly can understand why people turn to less conventional methods.
My issue is with unscrupulous practitioners who make exaggerated claims using dubious treatments and gulling vulnerable people into parting with thousands of pounds or dollars to no effect. They need to be identified and stopped.
For the record I looked up several Atlas bone videos on Youtube and I tried several of the exercises recommended by Chiros. It didnt work for me but I keep an open mind and certainly dont disparage anyone who finds it helpful. We all have to do whatever helps us.
Cervical vertigo is a thing that VM/MAV often gets conflated with. Could be the reason why neck-related things are helpful to a lot of people – Hain writes that many with VM/MAV are misdiagnosed and actually have cervical vertigo. unfortunately, the prognosis of cervical vertigo is significantly worse than MAV
What’s wrong with you guys? This is not a conflict I’m not here to conflict with nobody. It was just a recommendation/opinion/piece of advice… call it as you will. Can’t ya’ll accept an opinion that’s different than yours? I just meant to give him another perspective. And at the end of the day TO EACH HIS OWN.
Contrary to what a lot of people believe these days, there is such a thing as a wrong opinion. Suggesting a treatment that is not approved and actually likely to cause great harm isn’t as benign as just “having a different opinion”; it’s just plain wrong.
Again, I’m sure you were just trying to be helpful, but suggesting unapproved quack treatments to people isn’t the best idea. People here are desperate and easily steered the wrong way (I know because I am one) and it’s perfectly reasonable to expect quack treatments get called out for what they are for everyone else’s wellbeing
I’m not sure you are right about prolo being quackery but I’m not sure your wrong either.
I’m not a doctor. Neither are you.
So I think it’s best to leave it as it is and let everyone decide what’s best for them.
Finally, please understand I didn’t mean anybody “had to” do prolo. What I meant is like “hey I heard about a treatment called prolotherapy. From what I learned, it might help. But obviously I may be wrong (bc obviously I’m no doctor… even doctors are wrong sometimes you know) so you have to do your research and decide for yourself.”
I’m not giving facts, I’m sueggesting opinions… other ways to explore. I’m sorry if I was misunderstood.
There are three treatment modalities in the same vein - prolotherapy, platelets rich plasma injections and stem cell injections. The theory is that the body essentially stops seeing a wound as an acute attack. It stops healing and leaves chronic inflammation in place. The idea of these treatments is to irritate the area and cause the body to see the wound as a new, acute issue. It then sends in all the cells, enzymes, etc to heal the wound. Prolotherapy introduces a simple irritant. Platelets rich plasma injections substitute the irritant with plasma from the patient’s own blood. The platelets and plasma bring the healing properties plus nutrients to the wound. Stem cell takes it a step further and brings in the unformed stem cells that can become anything the body needs for healing. There are various ways to produce stem cells.
All three procedures are considered fairly new (a decade or so) and are therefore considered experimental with respect to insurance coverage. None are dangerous. All can be used for the very real diagnosis of cervical instability. My MD spinal pain specialist performs all three procedures along with epidural cortisone injections and every other standard pain management practice.
I’ve had three rounds of PRP in three places with mixed results. But hypermobile Ehlers Danlos is hard to treat because the soft tissue (tendon, ligaments, bursa, cartilage) are fragile, weak and don’t repair themselves naturally as they do in the lucky folks who have no experience of what I’m talking about.
Prolotherapy is not regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and its effectiveness and safety are not well-established by scientific evidence. Some studies have found that prolotherapy may reduce pain and improve function for some conditions (NOT VM), but others have found no benefit or only a placebo effect. Prolotherapy is also not a standard treatment for any disease or condition, and it should not replace any treatments or medications prescribed by your healthcare provider.
All further rebuttals to this thread will be met with the following:
Prolotherapy is not regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and its effectiveness and safety are not well-established by scientific evidence. Some studies have found that prolotherapy may reduce pain and improve function for some conditions (NOT VM), but others have found no benefit or only a placebo effect. Prolotherapy is also not a standard treatment for any disease or condition, and it should not replace any treatments or medications prescribed by your healthcare provider.
Take a look at the other replies in this profile, as noted it was only created a week ago. The replies seemingly spam random, very old threads with “did you get better” and then also oddly asking another about “instability.” Did you “heal”, “recover”, etc. All appears suspect and possibly of one with an agenda / seeking to promote for benefit by phishing for specific responses.
The original post created for this new topic is hardly benign. It states, if you have "dizziness/vertigo, etc. (might as well insert VM here) then “there is a good chance u have”… “If you are not in Florida” then proceed down this flow chart of prolothreapy related treatments such as DMXs which do not appear to be first line employed for such conditions at any reputable, established medical university or high-quality, known provider.
yeah the post history to me is highly suspect, considering the fact that this individual is shouting prolotherapy everywhere but hasn’t really discussed a whole lot of their own illness. if prolotherapy actually got them significantly better, i find it unlikely that they came on this forum to just spread the good news of prolotherapy out of the kindness of their heart.
i would not put it past Hauser to pay people to post on forums like this
