I prefer to get my health information from peer reviewed journals and medical experts as opposed to a video with a clear anti-vax agenda.
@flutters, I wish you good luck with your decision to not get vaccinated. I very much hope that you donāt end up like a friend of mine who got Covid last year, was in ICU on a ventilator and almost died. He has suffered from long Covid ever since. My friend turned 34 last week.
I likewise wish you luck with your choices. Donāt assume Iām not equally or better informed.
Thatās why vaccinating children who donāt have other existing health issues has proved so contentious here I understand. At what point do you risk the young fit and healthy to the good of other more vulnerable groups.
As @flutters says Itās fascinating the similarities between Long Covid and VM I noticed that way back in first lockdown. However I guess the same just apply to other neurological conditions. Presumably the brain has only a limited number of ways to express its displeasure. I think I posted an article recently about many cases of Long Covid actually being POTS.
I had CoVid and while it was a rough week, my symptoms were nowhere near as awful as these vaccine side affects Iām reading about in the thread above.
The human body is quite prepared to deal naturally long term with coronaviruses without these injections is my opinionā¦ especially since their effectiveness have recently been proven to wane to single digits within just a few months.
I can only imagine where we would be if our healthcare systems, media and governments would focus some of their energies on educating and supporting strong immune health.
@Lunapalm, I hope you donāt mind me asking, but did you get your second shot of Pfizer on Friday? And if so, how are you feeling?
I am still ok after my first jab last Wednesday.
I just have a sore arm so far and feel weak. My dizziness is worse but Iām also getting my period and there was a storm today
Could you please link to the documentary proof for reaching this conclusion. Itās generally accepted here effectiveness starts to wanes after about six months from second vaccination date. Figures for Pfizer and AZ Iāve seen in the National Press suggested by about 10/15% and related, solely from memory, to ability to resist infection.
Hi! Here is the link for the J&J story I read with the single digit efficacy reference. But it seems the vaccine information we get is ever evolving on the dailyā¦ā¦ sometimes hourly!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10099209/FDA-advisory-committee-recommended-approval-J-J-vaccine.html
What a star. Thanks for posting that. Makes for pretty dire reading that. If protection drops to 9% after a couple of months even I, a staunch vaccineer, doubt Iād have bothered. The J&J hasnāt been used here so virtually no news of it heard and definitely no experience of it. Vague memories of reading people say they weāre waiting for it to become available because it was the one dose vaccine. However the scientists in this link are saying it is meant to be two dose and therefore attributing its failure to protect to the fact the soldiers in question had only received a single dose. If this sort of result is typical I can well understand peoples reluctance to risk much by way of side effects.
Here in U.K. seems those originally deemed highly susceptible and who were quarantined at home by Government edict, very vulnerable, very elderly (care home residents ), over 80ās received two shits if the Pfizer and most others the Astra Zeneca except the under 40s who it was announced by the time they reached the head of the queue couldnāt have the AZ for fear of blood clots and got Pfizer. Now dose No 3 us in the offing for all over 50ās, and Pfizer recommended or 0.5 of a Modern but never the AZ unless person allergic to both the others.
Protection of course comes in levels. Thereās protection (A) against infection, (b) hospitalisation and (c) death. Both vaccines used here both protect and subsequently (quoted as after six months) decline at different rates. I cannot recall exact figures and donāt have them on a Bookmark but I think Pfizer was in the upper 80ās and after six months declined to mid 70ās and AZ went from upper 70ās to mid 60ās. Both sets of figures to make it worth taking them.
Of course we all tend to expect vaccinations to prove 100% effective and to therefore eradicate illnesses but thatās rarely the case. Was reading very recently about the latest breakthrough Malaria vaccination developments. Much of Africa is gearing up for a mass vaccination campaign buoyed up by the success rate which stands at 30%.
Thanks for the reference!
I had my J&J in April, so I hustled to snag a Moderna booster at a local pharmacy. I got it yesterday and no side effects, knock wood 
, so far.
I also shared with my friend who had J&J.
Our mainstream US media is not mentioning these numbersā¦ Of course we are in the early days of the CDC decisions and then a weekend hit, so it will be interesting to see what Monday newscasts will report.
Hi is anyone waiting for the novavax vaccine?
I had my second Pfizer jab yesterday morning. I felt very tired afterwards and had to have a nap. During the night I woke up at around 3.00 am and my body felt as if I was burning. It was a strange feeling because my forehead was cool, but inside I felt very hot. It took me ages to go back to sleep, but I did in the end.
I felt relatively normal in the morning, just tired. It is now late in the evening and all the side effects seem to have gone.
Luckily the Pfizer jab did not trigger any VM symptoms. I am very glad about this.
Iād imagined such could well happen.
I had my third Pfizer jab last week. So far Iāve been very fortunate and not had any discernible issues from any of them.
Can someone offer me some reassurance re: timing of recurring symptoms related to covid vaccination? Iāve been in a bad flare since last May. I got both doses of moderna earlier in the year and completed them by March. Now that boosters are coming up and Iām still so symptomatic I have some concern that the flare was related, but it took two months after my second dose for the symptoms to return this badly, so it likely wasnāt that, right? I want to feel more confident going into when boosters are necessary.
I reacted badly to both doses of AZ Covid vaccine. Differently each time but both times the reactions started 6-8 hours after the actual injection. Two months time delay, no way. I regularly had a delay on vestibular attacks following major triggers like a restaurant meal and after an MRI Scan which involved long distance travel and that delay was usually 36 hours. I cannot see how you can connect a two months delay to the vaccination. What would make you think that? some very valid connection in your mind. If so please do share.
This isnāt related to the vaccine. Just a weird thing about covid that happened to me. So thank God my family all got covid and are now immune. But, hereās the interesting thing - my migraine log shows during the 2.5 weeks I had covid, I hardly had any MAV symptoms. The loss of smell and taste definitely helped by reducing triggers. But all the background stuff was better as well. Not gonna lie, Covid sucks. But the MAV reprieve was an unexpected blessing.
Interesting! Has the MAV come back and is it better or worse than before Covid?
Oh yeah, MAV came home, but not overly so.
The neurological symptoms specific to my experience with Covid that arenāt part of my normal package were loss of taste and smell, tingling lips, pulsating vision and a numbness in my left calf. Those are all mostly gone at the one month mark. I swam a mile today so I guess we can say no real long term effects - even with the bronchitis phase of the thing. Except for the neurology, it was sort of a mild flu with a chest chunk that reminded me of a short bout of bronchitis. Iāve had much worse flu experiences. Thank God.
MAV is not worse than before. Covid symptoms started 10/29, positive test 11/1. Itās a little hard to tell where I am with respect to MAV since I went back to the office on 11/15 (I worked full weeks throughout from home) but was due for Botox on 11/24. Iām always messy in the weeks around Botox. Now itās a week past Botox (and a month since Covid got rolling) and Iām pretty much as good as I get. I feel like I always do at this part of the Botox cycle. I did have a ripping awful migraine over the weekend but my atlas slipped and blocked the flow of CSF and squished my brainstem. Thatās not MAVās fault, I forgot my orthotic pillow when I went out of town. I couldnāt get to the chiropractor for two days. Totally intractable, not responsive to any meds big fat migraine mess. 30 minutes after seeing the chiropractor yesterday morning, I was totally fine and remain so. Like I said, I went swimming today. In fact, Iām under florescent lights and feel totally fine even without my Theraspecs. So no, not really worse and maybe a bit better than normal.
Covid is weird. MAV is weird. Iām weird. The whole thing is puzzling. I would love to know why MAV took a break.
@Onandon03 you mentioned in another discussion topic that you got a booster shot. How are you? Did you experience any after-effects?